My friend UG Krishnamurti died
When everything fails, you use the last card, the trump in the pack of cards, and call it love.
U G Krishnamurti (1918-2007)
My longtime friend, antiguru, UG died at Vallecrossia in Italy aged 89. What can I say? I had fun listening to him , I had good times, Silent times, Conscious times with him.
UG- I am glad I got a chance to see you in your last breath. For once Italy moved into my unforgettable memories.
We had our arguments, we had our fights and we had love beneath all this. I was never his disciple nor his follower but I loved him. All my meetings were between breaths.
Hell what; I celebrate your death UG, as much as I enjoyed your life!
Bye UG,
Love
Suresh
CONDOLENCE!
Suresh, my condolences on the passing of UG. I read about him on wikipedia, interesting ideas to say the least. I am glad you posted since I had never heard of this man before.
No way! Handsome fellow. I’m sure his winking at you from his heavenly octave
He will remain for ever with his words and arguments. Love his stand on “GURU”.
My condolences.
At the risk of sounding silly and dramatic, because really all I know about ug is from his website and some discussion forums - when I heard the news over the weekend, I felt touched as if someone in my family had gone. Three traits come to my mind when I think of UG, though I can’t explain it - innocence, and honesty and of course love.
Just on 18th I had quoted him at shaktipower’s post
Here is his obituary
and of course love… (though that’s exactly what he spoke against, and I admit I’m still digesting his words, yet to get over intellectualising and assuming that I’ve understood love as yet another concept)
From your writing, I came to know. how you feel at this moment. Take it easy it’s a part of life.
you know from now on words he will be leaving in your heart mind and sol for ever. Relax.
Sathiyan S
I liked UG for being so brutally honest.
Sending you love Suresh, I’m sorry I didn’t have the chance to know him!
Just as I was clicking to get to this blog post, my husband announced that UG had died. I know he had not intention of being a teacher, but nevertheless for me there were many aha’s in reading his words and so I call him a teacher. I’d always hoped I’d be able to see him in person, but that wasn’t meant to be. It feels like a loss. Thank you for sharing your experience of UG in such an authentic, direct and honest way.
Sending you love in the loss of your friend…
This was a shock to me. I have been reading about UG for past 5 years and no one has influenced me so much as UG’s views did. I always wanted to meet him. However one tries to follow his teachings (if that is the right word) I cant stop the tears.
UG is often referred as ‘the GURU in reverse’
His implicit teaching is revealed when the word GURU is reversed and read aloud.
I’m sorry to hear of UG’s death. The world seems less sane without him.
UG is there still with us. Still I feel him as I used to feel him before he left his body.
He is there with me guiding me always.
He is still pushing me in right direction.
I feel him always.
U.G. simply prevented me of becoming a false person. Never before have i come across an adult figure with complete honesty and integrity, someone i could agree with(99,5%), someone sharing my outlook on which is obvious to me. Though having visited U.G. only twice(Gstaad/Bangalore) in the 1990s, i can say: He rocked! (in an unusual way) Thank you to all the people who supported him in his life. Chandrasekhar is fully right(s.a.)
Just found out UG past. Lets celebrate. He just came in my life the last 2 years by internet. Great stimulance. UG NOWHERE!!!!!
Love from the Netherlands
Prayoga
Ug completely changed my life and continues to do so….what can i do!?
All the way from Haiti(with love
Patrick
I had hoped to meet you one day UG/You changed everything/Never understood you/You are with me always/ I’m laughing
Hmm. Tough one, guess it had to happen sooner or later, he’s been real old, for a long time now.
Still he remained Razorsharp to the verry end.
You got to love him. No one could really replace him.
I’m glad to have talked with him one time.
He was a really cool dude I think and whatever people might say, go read he’s words..
He’s nothing but clarity in every single phrase.
Ikuru’s every statement is true.
An old solder who walked a path seldom, if ever, trod by another human being.
HE RESEMBLES THE OTHER KHRISNAMURI MY FATHER READ ABOUT ALL HIS LIFE. JEDHU. IS HE RELATED?
I WILL HAVE TO READ ABOUT HIS PHILOSOPHY NOW.
MY CONDOLENCES. IT IS ALWAYS SAD WHEN SOMEONE LEAVES OUR SPHERE, BUT WITH DEEP UNDERSTANDING, WE SHOULD NOT MOURN THEM BUT OUR FEELINGS OF LOSS, BUT CELEBRATE THE PASSING.
I view UG as a hero of humankind. What he has said is best understood as a critique of the sad state of affairs the human race has fallen into rather than an addition to the spiritual literature. That having been said, he clearly was a great Sage, which is the highest expression of human potential. He remains by far the finest example of a human being that I have ever meet or heard of in our era.
In all the fourty years I knew him, I never saw the slightest fault in his integrity. His loyalty to his friends was off the charts. He could have had a large organization, and chose instead to leave nothing behind. He never made a dime from the books people published based upon what he said. I have no doubt that he transcended J.Krishnamurti in every way. I believe that JK was the harbinger for UG’s appearence and there is much to be learned by the study of their joint story.
For those of you who are new to the subject, I suggest you go to the original material on the Web. UG can be very hard to take. This is because we are in the Matrix. Remember, Neo had a very hard time at first when Morpheus told him where he was at. UG’s devotion was, and is to the “Neo” in all of us.
Douglas Rosestone
thanks Douglas for your Insightful comments.
Eccentric UG:
U. G. Krisdhnamurthy, popularly known as UG by his admirers, was one of the best fine print minds form India. Whenever UG happened to be in
Bangalore, (most recently in 2006), his small bunch of admirers used to throng into his place to listen to his blastings. He is known for his eccentric but equally authentic outburst of thoughts and wits. I was always a proud admirer of him. UG nullified everything including himself. His provocation and penetration will go as unparalleled in
the history. We few admirers used to jokingly refer to him as Useless Guy (UG) in private; no wonder a rare breed of UG’s kind and mind
would have enjoyed that too. The finest part of UG was that he always preferred to live like a non-entity, not like a saviour of this world. Our modern day spiritual Gurus, who are more of a ‘name and fame thirsty’, and ‘honour and title crazy’ nature, should sip a lesson or two from UG’s empty cup. May long live the breed of UG.
UG, a sage, an ocean of spiritual attainments
Just moved from one shore to another
Yet, he lives in the minds of thousands
Who never seen and unseen
Like a spark from a hearth
He rekindles the human race
With never ending sagacity….
M. Matt, Managing Editor, Gulf Agriculture
Who died?
Good bye my friend. You have been an inspiration to me you have been my teacher, my guru,
Aroha nui kia koe e te rangatira
Tiki OBrien
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J KRISHNAMURTI LEFT AN IMPRINT ON HUMAN MIND,
BUT U G KRISHNAMURTI SURPASSED. HE WAS THE MOST
‘GOD LESS, GOD MAN’
like someone said here, turn GURU, and you get URUG.
ug krishnamurti was a fraud. a frustrated & uncomplet man.
after knowing ug this discussion is useless.he forbade all worthless talks of philosophy.its better to get on with life.isnt that he said?
true, forget him and get on with life.
“forget him and get on with life”
Yes that is the essence of his teachings.
here is another cookie if you haven´t seen it.
http://ugmoneymaxims.blogspot.com/
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J KRISHNAMURTI LEFT AN IMPRINT ON HUMAN MIND,
BUT U G KRISHNAMURTI SURPASSED. HE WAS THE MOST
‘GOD LESS, GOD MAN’
Comment by JEO — April 11, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
Unless youve seen the movie clips with UG go right here.
http://www.ugkrishnamurti.org/ug/ug_video/index.html
all schools move.
ug say “any movment in any direction is taking you away from your self”
I say “trying to stand still is taking you away from your self”
anything you do is taking you away from your self
anything you “dont do” is allso a forcefull action.
stop pushing yourself around.
it’s too simple.
the mind does not like this.
It’s pissing you off to accept that all your efforts are fruitless.
All your movements are worthless.
y o u can n o t go anywhere
and its really pissing you off
your not willing to accept it
its just too simple
your trying to run, but there is no POINT
where are you going?
and what do you think will happen there?
just forget about it.
I prommise you
whatever it is
your not gonne do it
there is nothing there
nothing to get
its Not gonne happen for you
J.Krishnamurti was a imposter. U.G.Krishnamurti hated his popularity and was another imposter. And of course, the third who wanted to be heads above them Rajneesh was the third imposter.
Buddha was the only one in this gang who had some semblence of original philosophy.
I spend 3 years deeply studying both these guys and confusing my life and screwing my happiness. Now I am glad both have lived their lives and gone. Hopefully, moving into the future, they are both forgotten and they leave the world a better place by having left it.
They have nothing to say, but take many hours of tape and books to say it. They are not guru but like surrounded by many. They do not want anyone to read their books, but dont mind enjoying the royalties that come out of their books. J.K. built an institution though he hated it. U.G. could not build because he could attract the rich like J.K. and now blames J.K. for doing it. U.G. finds J.K’s lectures boring but is his any better?
I love Rajneesh’s comment when he was mightily drunk and in a swimming pools with several naked females disciples, he wondered loudly why Krishnamurti was struggling so much when nirvana was so easy. Atleast I can grant Rajneesh a sense of humour that these two K’s lacked.
May God grant U.G. better luck in his next birth. May he be as popular as J.K. was in this birth. May be, that would calm down U.G..
To U.G.’s followers - do not try to understand this message. If you are beyond the mind, this message wont make sense. It needs a mind.
GK
Response to Ganesh Kumar-
ug never recieved royalties nor claimed authorship of any of the interviems and books he did. he was an enigma. let him be
Another big hoax “passed away”.
Every wine has a flavour ….. each different… lets enjoy all of them. Let us not fight over which one was better.
Aloha,
UG seemed terribly honest. I wonder if he ever expressed his desire to be (at times) around his chosen ‘friends’? Did his interactions with people not provide him with certain resonance or edification? Anyway, I’m glad to have heard such a man.
Response to Ganesh Kumar - I spend 3 years deeply studying both these guys
Why not spend atleast a fraction of the time studying oneself - just a few minutes maybe…
We had fun listening to UG. A great controversial Soul!
Bye UG,
Sudi Narayan & Family
Atlanta
UG’s brutal honesty cleanses the mind sufficiently for there to be space for courage.Sincere affection to all who understood.
Some where in these comment lines, Sanjay’s words “Why not spend atleast a fraction of the time studying oneself - just a few minutes maybe…” may hit the point well. All thru our life we have a tendency to pass the blame on others for our so called misery and failures. We blame that guru, this guru or that guy (includes UG too!) I think we are not earnest enough to see to our own life and self. In blaming alone we get a kind of solace and we end up in that “salvation”! Gurus, guides are ok to some level, and then IT’S YOUR LIFE AND YOU ARE THE MASTER. No other way.
If we are really earnest and open with quest, insights and opening ups can happen even at the feet of a donkey. Other wise, it can not happen even with the help of a ‘God sent monk’!
That’s the way of existence and life. I humbly say, we (me included) don’t know anything, except that we are literate and can throw some grand or crap words.
There whole argument surrounding ug and j krishnamurti is the same argument that has caused all the reilgious now the fact that wars on the planet,ug claimed he had no message but my god did he like the sound of his own voice,while he paraphrased his reviel jk.if he had no message then why did he speak?i then saw one of his videos titled “you are a computer” and my first reaction was i never saw a computer laugh,a real belly laugh.his statements are all untrue,this is obvious to a mature mind.nothing can be true,no statement is true because truth is silent.now the fact that he attacked jk is a reflection of ego,yes folks his ego was judging jk,even though he would tell you he was in the natural state,if he was,then what was attacking jk?then i saw him call the buddha a “filthy bastard” and i laughed again,again his ego was at it.all the time jk stays non reactive,the first sign of enlightenment.ug did speak some truths but why did he attack other?WHEN AT LAST I HEARD HIM COMMENT THAT HE WALKED OUT OF A CONCERT in england because the music wasnt interesting i thought,music isnt interesting,the sunset isnt interesting,love isnt interesting!you get the point.if you listened to alan watts speak he would show you the truth clearer and with real humanity,flaws and all.forget about negative gurus and go for the positive cheerful human ones,my dog at home is more enlightened then ug krishnamurti could ever even dream to be
When I first read UG’s stuff it destroyed my “spiritual” life and put me on the road to living an ordinary if cynical but happy life, for that I am thankful. That being done, whether he’s a hoax or not doesn’t matter much to me, the job was done, as it may equally well have been by a good novel. So he’s talks did affect me deeply, I can’t help feeling moved, visiting the site after 10 years out of curiosity at what had become of him.
Response to Ganesh and Hatton,
UG denied everything including himself. By denying him, you are sounding like him and making him laugh.And to those who love him, you will be doing a great disservice to the man by edifying him and making him another GOD.
I’ve just known that you passed away.
I make a bow to Shiva Himself, who gave me the luck of finding Myself.
Hari UG! Namá Shivaya! Hari Om!
BELOVED U.G. KRISHNAMURTI
MY SINGLE HOMAGE TO A MAN WHO WAS THE UNIQUE MAN TO OPEN THE MIND OF EVERYBODY IN TOUCH WITH HIM!
TO ME U.G. KRISHNAMURTI IS THE GREATEST GYANT OF THIS ERA !!!
WUITH HIM FOR THE ETERNITY OF LIFE !!!
RADHO - ex- Osho Disciple - TODAY FREE FROM ALL THE BULSHITS AROUND …
well now that both Krishnamurtis are gone I can only delight in the fact that all those things written in old books about “Sages” is true!!! They live and walk among us today!
Although his language sometimes left something to be desired, and he appeared to be bitter or grummpy at times, disconcerting as always in conversation, and even alarming with his talk of the Body.
Although he never appeared to be “agreeable” and you couldn’t put your finger on the guy….I’d rather have his sort than the jappa-chanting business schools that are so prominent.
UG is interesting, I’ve just learned of him. I don’t know if that anger is good anger or judgemental anger.
I discovered UG in 1998 but I learnt more about him in 2003. I have read most materials written on him and seen his videos. I even tried once to meet him but didn’t work out. He had a big impact on my life. That impact is hard to describe but those of us who are fans of UG know what I mean.
I am not saddened by his death. I feel very fortunate to have discovered this man in this lifetime. It is a blessing in my opinion. I think what UG talked about was real life…. no abstractions, no beliefs, just pure and simple truths…. it was hard hitting at first, sometimes felt like this can’t be it, because our mind can’t accept it.
Message to UG: Thanks for everything. Safe travels!
Nish
The more I read about Krishnamurthis (J and UG), Osho, Yogananda, Aurbindo, etc etc, it seems they were all on a spiritual journey but did not reach the destination. Yet the more I read about Sri Ramana, you see a man whose life was on public display for nearly 55 years for 22 hours a day and a man who was extrordinarily humble. He silenced more minds with his thundering silence and showed extrordinary extraordinary compassion. His teachings are consistent with advaita and independent of Shankara since his teachings in the early part was before his reading of Shankara and his teachings.
For those of you impressed by UGs anti-guru rantings (debunking himself also) note that Ramana refused to be considered as a guru in spite of several claiming awakening in his presence. Often in silence and occasionally in words, he consistently refused that he had any extraordinary powers to visit individuals in their sudden visions or treat any one who visited him though numerous claims were made to that effect. (If Osho was truthful in his claim that UG was unimpressed with Ramana when he first met him because Ramana was slicing vegetables, UG missed the routine anti-guru behavior of Ramana. He got up routinely at 3am to cook for every one, along with others.)
If you have not, I suggest all of you to read more about the biography of Ramana and his teachings. He is the only one I wish I had met in person.
Best wishes.
To be enlighted? It isn’t about to get anything. It is in a ______ way to get rid of whats not you and even get rid of that. Just say it in your own words, like UG did.
Reject all the roles that come up in your mind and just be. Reject all the good and useless suggestions coming from outside. Do you have the nerve for doing that? Can one just be whats left, when everything else is dropped? What might be there? You’ll never know until it is.
You will be surprised.
Thank you UG. I read almost all of the things you said. I’m pretty sure you would reject me, damn me and turn me down. So, no need to see you.
Thank you people for writing down and publising the speeches of UG.
vallecrosia si scrive con una esse sola ignoranti! comunque chissene.
Every teacher has his place, and everyone else has also his place. UG clearly took away some of my cherished beliefs. As “Enlightenment” is the dropping of all beliefs, I can only say that this man helped me. He also pointed out that we should not make him into a hero. So there is no need to overwhelm him with praise. Making him a hero, is denying our own strength.
He may have gotten off the merry go round (most of the time), that only shows that we can do it too.
Remembering U.G. on the first anniversary of his death.
I really wish that i could have met UG during his last years. But after having heard
his talks for so long it really does’nt matter. I must say that UG’s words can affect your whole way of thinking. I keep coming back to his words again and again. But , to really understand him requires tremundous courage on our part. I’m still a coward…
I will be doing great injustice to UG when I write something because he did not want to be remembered at all. But you see, I just want to be part of the this great man. I got to know UG only about 3 months back and the impact he has made is something undefinable. In a very short span I read and saw most of the audios and videos from his website. How I wish I had met him. But I keep meeting him often seeing his videos and audios. Hi to you UG !! I will try and forget you UG !
We can’t argue with U.G.So we think he is far above us- Super-enlightened ? So we want to be like him, because that must be the ultimate pleasure! The very contradiction to his “teaching”.
I never understood his criticism of JK. He seemed to have some ufinished business there? But man I would have loved to meet both of them.
I think (in my view) UG’s criticism of JK can be summerised -
JK - ‘JK remained a teacher’ and tried to save the world.
UG - ‘a true guru is one who free’s you from himself’ and did not try to save anybody.
UG was just himself.
That seems to be very rare in this world.
Almost everyone wants to be something other that what he is.
Crazy world indeed.
I don’t see the use of meeting JK or UG.
They didn’t have anything that we don’t have. (As both of them have assured us)
I really wanted to meet U.G. too ….
Suresh , you are a lucky fellow that you met him.
I just envy UG, for his strenght / talks.I wish I could become somebody in the likes of
UG.
Sorry but i’am in contradiction with his teachings, but that is what i want to be ….
For a person who taught about pure love, why did he not offer that love to a special woman, apart from the other people and things in his life? is there not a contradiction here in his teachings?